How do you view vulnerability?

Perhaps you view vulnerability as a liability…and that thought holds you back from opening up so you can step out and up.

Another question for you: how much do you value growth?

Here’s the truth: Comfort is a casualty of growth.

If we are to grow, we must get out of our own way and step into discomfort where growth and fulfillment live.

In today’s episode of the Epic Success Podcast, my guest, Dave Hollis, shares his powerful journey as a skeptic of growth and fulfillment. Dave just released his book, Get Out Of Your Own Way: a Skeptic’s Guide to Growth and Fulfillment, which outlines 20 lies he believed…and how he processed and moved past each of them over these past few years as he moved from a Disney Sales Executive to joining his wife, Rachel Hollis, in entrepreneurship. The Hollis company has grown from a team of 5 to now 65 in just two years!

I know you will be able to relate to his stories in so many ways!

Listen in as Dave shares a handful of the lies he once believed and the truth behind them.

The biggest take-aways from today’s episode are:

  • “If we are not conscientious of the stories that we tell ourselves, then we become someone who just plays a role against the backdrop of something that someone else has devised.

You must constantly be in a conversation with yourself about the stories that you believe and audit them. Dave says, every time he experienced pain in his life, he realized it was when the person he knew himself to be and who he said he wanted to be or who he said he was, was not in alignment. [11:14]

  • In the absence of being able to fail on the whole, there was not an opportunity to grow.

The strongest connection to the universe is the connection between growth and fulfillment. If you desire to have fulfillment in your life, you must pursue growth. In order to grow, you must embrace opportunities to fail every single day. Ask yourself, are you trailblazing or are you doing trail-management? [26:29]

  • “We are in pursuit of acquiring knowledge and the richest stream of knowledge on the planet comes through failure.

Dave shares their radical vision for the Hollis Company saying that, in order to have a seat at their leadership table 5 years from now, each team member will need to dramatically grow and increase their skills and contribution to the company. Just as Dave did, we must completely reframe the opportunity that will come every single time we make a mistake as being for us to be relevant and an unbelievable asset 5 years from now. [29:52]

A ship is safe in harbor but that’s not what ships are built for.

Dave got that tattooed on his arm as a reminder of the time he used to be attracted to certainty and now his decision to leave the harbor and welcome the waves and growth that comes in that discomfort. Find something that will anchor you to that reminder.

Powerful! This interview, Dave’s honest stories, his book, all of it! You’ve heard it and undoubtedly felt a spark resonate within you about your own journey towards growth and fulfillment. Now it’s time to act on that.

Go buy Dave’s book, Get Out Of Your Own Way: a Skeptic’s Guide to Growth and Fulfillment, take a picture of your receipt then tag Dave (@mrdavehollis) & me (@drshannonirvine) on Instagram and you will be in the drawing for a seat at RISE San Diego, CA and a VIP coaching call with me! 

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